15 Credibility Street #7 – Big old problem: they might be giants

jasonIn this episode, I talk with Jason Colavito about giants, angels and monsters. Or, giant monster angels, who may be anti-diluvians or Atlantians, and who watch, though I’m not sure what and why the hell they are watching. They may be Bigfoot ancestors, or space aliens, or demons, or sons of God, or just “men of renown”. It’s all very confusing.

One passage in the “official” version of the Bible (we refer to it as “canonical”) is translated as follows:

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
~Genesis 6:4

Then God gets annoyed by the wickedness of men and sends the giant flood. The Bible officially says a few more general tidbits about giants, but not much. You’ll have to consult the non-canonical literature for more on this.

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In the above bible verse, “Nephilim” is the actual word used which has been translated both at “giants” or “fallen ones”. This seems to have morphed into legends of giant fallen angels.

So, Jason tells me more about what all this may mean and how it has threaded through our popular culture from very long ago right up to modern media. I was introduced to the concept via the religious-themed fantastical claims of some Bigfoot followers who thought that Melba Ketchum’s (roundly disputed) DNA results supported the story that giant angels mated with human women in the past. (And that these population of supernatural beings still walk the earth today.)

In the following clip, Ketchum describes how she actually saw these giants, a 10-ft tall creature in a tree. She does not come out and relate them to Nephilim but she is a religious person and several others (including Abramhamic Faith who posted many YouTube clips tagged “Nephilim”, and Bigfooter Ron Morehead) who have made this connection.

Then, there was this story about red-haired giants connected to the Paracas skulls. This was about this time I started regularly reading Jason’s blog since he was well-versed in the foundations of these claims. I realized that the pseudo-archaeology wave was going strong and the people involved included a whole slew of Biblical literalists. Or, on the flip side, they viewed the Bible stories as metaphors for out-of-this-world entities that came to earth to help develop human civilization. Obviously, we’re too lame to build big fancy structures and organize elaborate community systems for ourselves.

Here are a few other thoughts as I reflect upon this discussion about Nephilim:

  • Nephilim as souls freed to possess people sounds an awful lot like the aliens turned thetans in Scientology.
  • Attempts to retrofit Biblical language to reflect paranormal entities of today – aliens/UFOs, Bigfoot, fairies, giants, and various cryptids – are ubiquitous. Here is Dr. Ken Feder’s excellent piece on how the Cardiff Giant was meant to reinforce belief in the Bible. Jason and I mention LA Marzulli’s obsession with the Watchers and his need to relating everything back to the Bible. This was the case with his promotion of “demon fairy” remains. This stuff is all over the History Channel.
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  • Is the root of the explosion of “mysteries of the unknown” topics in the 1970s all relatable back to this Nephilim passage in the Bible? Maybe not for ghosts, but legends describing dozens of paranormal beliefs have spun off from that one passage. We also mention Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Knights Templar, and Illuminati as examples of the conspiracy ideas that arose from the Bible and have expanded to the New World Order claims today.
  • Carl Sagan helped legitimize the Sirus Mystery, but he did say that civilization was terrestrial rather than extraterrestrial.

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“Norandino and Lucina Discovered by the Ogre” Giovanni Lanfranco 1624, Galleria Borghese Rome, Italy