Train in vain: No sign of Nazi gold train

A discouraging update on the Nazi gold train said to be located in Poland. Back in August, even the culture minister was hopeful it was real. Alas, there were many reasons to be very skeptical as we noted back then. It turns out, no evidence that it is real has been forthcoming. A team of geologists looked for what should have been a clear signal delivered by remote sensing equipment, it was not there.

“There is no train,” Prof Janusz Madej of the Polish mining academy told a press conference in the city of Wałbrzych. The conference was attended by dozens of journalists and television crews who began following the gold train story after the treasure hunters made their claim in August. “The geo-magnetic model anomalies would be far greater if there was a train,” he said. Madej spoke after a team of scientists spent a month surveying a site at the 22-mile (35km) mark on the Wrocław-Wałbrzych railway line identified as the train’s resting place.

Source: There is no Nazi gold train, Polish scientists say | The Guardian

A team of geologists and engineers surveying the purported location of a Nazi train filled with gold, gems and weapons concluded that it does not exist.

Source: Hopes Dashed Again in Hunt for Fabled Nazi Gold Train in Poland – The New York Times

The Krakow University team of geologists and engineers used magnetic and gravitation methods and found some anomalies that may indicate a tunnel but no mass of metal that could be a train.

Of course, this doesn’t dissuade the treasure hunter, Piotr Koper, who STILL thinks it’s there. Possibly, previous surveys by the treasure hunters interpreted anomalies as a train. But it wasn’t. Let’s face it, the odds were dim so this is not a surprise.

Thanks, Bob!

  17 comments for “Train in vain: No sign of Nazi gold train

  1. CimPy
    December 16, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    What a pity….

  2. Tom
    December 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Did people really believe that millions of Russian troops hungry for plunder and a desperately cash strapped post war USSR would not have chased down any whisper of such a train and found it long ago?
    The whole business reminds me of all the sightings of Hitler in the 1950’s ie suitable only for the more sensational papers.

  3. David H
    December 17, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    The whole story seemed too much like a Clive Cussler novel.

  4. Harrow
    December 17, 2015 at 2:57 AM

    Wait, what? Those are novels?

  5. Christine Rose
    December 17, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    I thought something similar myself, but I did read that this part of Poland was actually part of Germany and that the ethnic Germans who had lived in the area fled the Soviet troops en masse and that the area was largely depopulated after the war. That made it slightly more plausible.

  6. Karl
    December 18, 2015 at 9:15 AM

    Chalk it up to another manifestation of amateur treasure hunters, convinced fortunes lie under the ground. See, the Oak Island Money Pit, the early history of Joseph Smith, the Bosnian pyramid guy. A more interesting manifestation with obsessing over fame and fortune being found under ground are the people who hunt for North Korean invasion tunnels under Seoul (covered here in an earlier DN article).

  7. busterggi (Bob Jase)
    December 18, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    Damn, I’ll bet the original of J. Hutton Pulitzer’s Roman ceremonial gladiator sword was on that train!

  8. Karl
    December 18, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Pulitzer and his sword seems to have cropped up on that amazingly dumb Oak Island Mystery show.

    http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news/local/startling-new-report-on-oak-island-could-rewrite-history-of-the-americas-1-7118097

    He seems to have a lot of, ummm, non standard ideas about history.

  9. Karl
    December 18, 2015 at 2:56 PM

    Oh, and about that sword. You don’t have to dive the Atlantic looking for a lost treasure ship to get one. You could just buy the exact sword from Amazon or Linen n things:

    http://www.amazon.com/Design-Toscano-Gladiators-Sword-Pompeii/dp/B009QU8BDI

    http://www.lnt.com/product/statues-and-figurines/796131-2448607/design-toscano-sp1086-gladiators-sword-of-pompeii.html

  10. Christine Rose
    December 18, 2015 at 4:31 PM

    Ah, I’ve been waiting for someone to find it. It’s been seen on another non-standard history site as something someone was sold as a genuine antique. I figured it would be somewhere in the ether.

    I can’t for the life of me see how you could actually fight with that thing. They were trying to pass it off as “ceremonial,” which is an obvious admission that you couldn’t actually fight with the thing.

  11. Karl
    December 18, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Of course I’m sure they’ll do the B.i.l.l.y. M.e.i.e.r. thing and claim the company simply designed the sword after seeing the real sword…

    And if you’ve ever dealt with B.i.l.l.y. M.e.i.e.r. ‘s “north american media representative” you’ll know why I’ve munged his name against google alerts.

  12. December 20, 2015 at 12:49 PM

    Now THAT is funny.

  13. December 20, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    Follow: http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog for much MUCH more on the swords of Oak Island asshattery.

  14. G.Consolini
    December 20, 2015 at 5:52 PM

    I hope someone finds the train.
    Sometimes things are waiting just for the right person to find them.
    Happy hunting!
    When all the greedy parties are dead, the true inheriter will emerge.

  15. Karl
    December 21, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    G. Consolini,

    You might also entertain the possibility the train no longer exists. As noted above, it’s as likely in the post war chaos, anything of value, like a treasure train, Russian troops would have stripped and carted back home in pieces.

  16. Artor
    December 26, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    Treasure hoards get lost all the time, once the few who know where they are hidden die off. People still find Roman and Viking-era hoards buried in fields, under rocks, at the backs of tombs, etc.

  17. AV
    January 29, 2016 at 5:38 AM

    Yesterday’s (Jan. 28) paper edition of the German weekly paper Die Zeit had a 3-page feature about the past and present of the story, with the key persons interviewed. Doesn’t appear to be yet on the paper’s website, though.

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