Ohio psychic scam busted

News brief: Another psychic caught using the old standby, I must remove the curse on you, give me money. She was arrested.

Remember, all psychics are basically useless and you DON’T have a curse. Don’t be gullible.

A Madison woman faces charges for allegedly using her psychic reading business as a fear tactic to scam people of their money.

According to Mentor police, Gina B. Miller, 40, operated a business called Psychic Reader on Mentor Avenue in Mentor.

An investigation revealed that for 20 years she created a scam to deceive multiple victims by convincing them that various types of harm would come to them or their families if they did not provide her with certain forms of payment.

Source: Psychic reader in Mentor charged in scam

Police are hearing from other victims now that they have revealed the fraud.

  14 comments for “Ohio psychic scam busted

  1. reprobate
    September 21, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    She should’ve saw it coming…just like this one should have!
    http://wgno.com/2013/03/07/kenner-police-arrest-psychic/

  2. MisterNeutron
    September 21, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    What puzzles me is why some activities of these “psychics” rise to the level of a prosecutable fraud, while others do not. Any time a “psychic” accepts payment for providing any sort of “psychic” service, is that not fraud? They’re taking money in exchange for a service, when they know that they can’t actually deliver what they’re promising.

  3. Bookman66
    September 21, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    So why are these “psychic mediums” who parade themselves on TV shows and are so blatantly fake, not also arrested and thrown in jail? I do believe that some but very few people do have those abilities, but these women on TV are scam artists of the highest level, bilking big money off networks and convincing some people they are “real” meanwhile insulting the intelligence of anyone with half a brain that instantly sees through their BS. They even travel to big cities to hold psychic “events” and of course charge each of the thousands of sheep that show up a hundred bucks or more to witness their “readings” in person… they are just as much a criminal as this other woman; worse in my opinion!

  4. Omxqru
    September 21, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say that some psychics do believe they can see the future or believe that they do have certain powers. I’m not condoning this, I’m just saying some believe they have the ability to see the future. Now I’m going to duck while you reply.

  5. September 21, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Omxgru (whew….try typing that 5 times real fast) hits it on the head. Certainly there must be a portion of the self-identified psychic population that believes they have a special gift. But that’s really the problem with all purveyors of the paranormal or shady science: healing preachers at a tent show; hypnotists who regress clients to past lives or into alien abduction beliefs; “facilitated communications” practitioners; water dowsers; pet psychics; homeopaths; astrologers…ad infinitum.

    Do they really believe in their powers or are they out-and-out con artists? Other than catching a few folks in their scams, it’s really really hard to know how many of them are simply caught up in their professed belief system.

    However, I propose a third category or categories: people who perhaps think their “gift” needs a little boost from sideshow tactics or other foolery — like the preacher who believes he can heal but finds over time that other gimmicks and tricks help the process along; or the psychic who thinks, “what’s the harm in passing along some positive news from a passed away dog or aunt?”

  6. September 21, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Some get out of it by claiming their services are for entertainment only – such as reading Tarot cards, palms, and the like. No claim is made overtly about the accuracy.

    However, when someone states they can remove a curse, they are claiming they are actually doing something for the client. They’re not, of course, and the only defense to something like that would possible be proving that someone actually DID have a curse on them (which they can’t) and that the psychic removed the curse (which they also can’t).

    Likewise, advertising yourself as a “spiritual advisor” isn’t really claiming anything except giving advice, which at this point in time still does not require a license. Personally, I don’t think that’s particularly fair to counselors and therapists, who have degrees but most often do not have licenses, and so are not permitted to “hang out a shingle”. But I digress…

    I see that Peter Poppoff is on TV again. He is clearly practicing fraud, claiming he has “holy water” that will cure people. I don’t understand why people aren’t going after him again. Or the other televangelists who make claims for healing. There’s no difference between those people and the people who “get rid of curses” – none.

  7. September 21, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Victoria is quite right, of course. An important point, however, at least from my perspective of academic curiosity, is whether the practitioners believe their nonsense or not. Believing your spiel doesn’t make it right, but it takes it out of the realm of scams and cons and probably “fraud.”

    But Popoff…grrr. I remember cruising through the cable channels a year or so and feeling my eyes pop off of their sockets as I saw his show listed. I watched for a few minutes aghast and amazed as he was once again touting his flim flam, especially the “miracle water.”

    How has the Christian world allowed him back into the bosom of their checkbooks? Are memories that short? Has a new generation of gullibles arisen who never saw how he was exposed as a fraud?

    On a related topic, I suggest that fans of John Oliver check out his parody of a televangelist scam, “Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption.” Oliver satirizes the ridiculous IRS rules that allow tax-exempt churches to form all too easily and the televangelists who use that opportunity to take advantage of gullible followers. One highlight is his increadibly patient, painstaking and very real 7-month correspondence with Christian huckster Robert Tilton, patterned after the Popoff model.

    It can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg

  8. September 21, 2015 at 12:45 PM
  9. September 21, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    New to this site? Click on the “psychics” category to see a history of calling out all kinds of psychics, none of which have ever demonstrated any paranormal “abilities”.

  10. Eric
    September 21, 2015 at 2:09 PM

    I think fining or jailing all so called psychics would be a very very slippery slope. I know plenty of mainstream churches promising everlasting life in the Kingdom of heaven etc etc. also promising damnation if their particular doctrine is not followed. And certainly these organizations are taking in plenty of “donations” from their believers. Some people also dedicate their entire lives to these unsubstantiated beliefs. But again we see nothing wrong with that and call it faith!

    And Not that I condone the fraudsters in the least but at some point “consumers ” also have to take some sort of responsibility for their own actions. If you ae going to hand over tend of thousands of dollars because someone says you have a curse than maybe someone else should be responsible for your finances!

  11. Overkill
    September 21, 2015 at 5:53 PM

    If you’re interested, Merseyside Skeptics featured some of Popoff’s latest round of scams on their recent podcast, Skeptics with a K.

    As with all SwaK episodes, this one comes with a language warning 🙂

    http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2015/09/skeptics-with-a-k-episode-156/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+swak+%28Skeptics+with+a+K%29

  12. Tony
    September 21, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    Atlantic magazine published an informative article last year about the subject of state laws concerning psychic fraud vs. entertainment, “When Is Fortunetelling a Crime?”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/11/when-is-fortunetelling-a-crime/382738/

  13. September 22, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    Imagine the conspiracy theories such True Believers will come up with when they get arrested.

  14. Mark
    September 22, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    I believe they fall back on “For Entertainment Purposes only” clause.

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