Alt med death conspiracy expands beyond the US and even beyond alt med

Back in July, we posted a story on the untimely death of alternative practitioner Nicholas Gonzales and the brewing conspiracy idea that there is a coverup of these deaths that some people are suggested are suspicious.

You can take a look at that piece and see nothing is offensive, unless, that is, you are totally invested in the idea that alternative treatments cure disease. It’s a fact that there is no current evidence that they do. And that’s not for lack of trying.

The conspiracy, fanned by Erin Elizabeth of Health Nut News, continues as she includes the homeopathic practitioners that were involved in a mysterious drug episode in Germany recently and now the tragic murder-suicide of Brian Short and family. I can not grasp how people can link these together in any sort of common cause.

The German conference episode is still mysterious because the participants won’t talk. None of them are dead. They voluntarily took the drug. If they felt there was some nefarious purpose, they aren’t saying so which is weird. This sounds like a big blunder they would rather go away.

The Short case is disturbing but he was not an alt med practitioner. Short ran the site AllNurses.com, a popular site that does not appear to be related to alternative medicine. He was, like some others who resorted to suicide, facing some legal trouble. But it’s not clear what happened yet.

The imaginative fear-mongerers are moving the goalposts again in order to keep this story alive. First it was just Florida and alt med doctors. Now it’s worldwide and all medical professionals? If so, I’m sure Health Nut News could add many many more cases to the list, it’s arbitrary.

Elizabeth states she never said these were connected but that’s SO disingenuous as this is clearly the suggestion she is promoting in her articles that are getting her lots of attention. Plus, she continues to count. The story seems to be rallying people around a sense (however trumped up) of persecution. The comments continually focus on how they know the truth. The rest of us are closed-minded and missing the wonderful possibilities of these treatments. That’s their view but it’s incorrect. The body of evidence is not there, the rejection is not based on personal agenda or some repressive plan.

Meanwhile, I have received numerous comments in the previous thread linked above, some I posted, most I did not, from people who did not read the article, are not familiar with the purpose of this site, and showed up from an outside link just to express their annoyance with my view. They fail to address the key issues that I make in the post choosing instead to say how terrible conventional medicine is, that big pharma are Nazis or the Mafia, and how chemotherapy is toxic (that’s why it works to kill cancer cells, actually). They really can’t see any purpose in discussion except to defend their belief. Their comments are pointless, often mean, degrading or incoherent, and do not contribute to the discussion.

Here’s a fairly self-evident tip that I see I must remark upon: Calling me an idiot, on the take, and hoping I die will not get your comment approved. But it will get your location information recorded and possibly reported to your internet provider.

This is a moderated site. It’s also a science-based site. When you can give me more than anecdotes about how this person helped YOU, then that is worth listening to. But until then, I will continue to point out that alternative treatments don’t work, can be harmful, and people should be made aware of the deception and delusion inherent in these ideas.

In no case did I glorify these deaths. The accusation that they are some sort of nefarious plot is what is REALLY insulting to the people who died. That is the doubtful portion of this story. But sadly, it’s deeper and more rotten than that.

Addition to the list:

Renowned holistic cancer specialist Mitchell Gaynor, M.D., was found dead over the weekend in the woods near his home, according to reports by several Web-based alternative medicine media outlets.

Source: Another Alternative Medicine Doctor Dies Mysteriously: Reports

Remember, in order to determine if this is some pattern, an awful lot of comparison and counting would need to be done. And what about the consideration of how they died? What would be a mechanism? A motive?

Addition: A local news station does a report on Bradstreet and the conspiracy idea.

  20 comments for “Alt med death conspiracy expands beyond the US and even beyond alt med

  1. Bob
    September 16, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    I hope you get gnawed to death by frenzied gerbils.

  2. reprobate
    September 16, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    I have read and read and did more reading (some of the more suspect links included below) and I have yet to find any verifiable connection between the 5-13 (at last count and dependent upon source) deaths of alternative medical ‘practitioners’. The fact they are all dead seems to be the only common link. Granted there is highly suggestive ties with some of the deceased but there hasn’t been one concrete piece of evidence that links them together. And supposed research into GcMAF versus vaccinations is certainly not it. From what I can determine, not all were involved in that form of research. So, there is nothing to connect.
    So, why is there any controversy? That is equivalent to finding some different types of feathers and a bit of fur and claiming the cat ate all the birds. It doesn’t make any sense.
    Yes, it is sad that people are dead…especially for those who have ties with the newly departed and it is a shame that the unwashed masses will have to invest some effort to locate a new source of income depletion but to place any value in their deaths as some sort of conspiracy is about as valid as the therapies suggested by these practitioners.

    link to collective-evolution.com

    link to thefreethoughtproject.com

  3. September 17, 2015 at 2:49 AM

    Slightly OT, on the subject of comments… [edited]

    I do love this site, love the way it aggregates much of the information that interests me as a beginner sceptic, and appreciate all the effort you have put into it over the years.

  4. September 17, 2015 at 7:02 AM

    Yep, Jerome. Got the message. Thanks.

  5. Gary Gough
    September 17, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    I’m sure you know of this site, but worth mentioning a linked example of alt. med deaths, two practitioners / originators treating themselves. link to skepdic.com Both died of easily treated conditions , admittedly one chronic.

  6. Kevin Fries
    September 17, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    It is well know that 100% of users of conventional (i.e. scientific) medicine die.* However, 125% of users of alternative medicine die, a 25% increase.

    *given enough time.

  7. Chris
    September 17, 2015 at 1:43 PM
  8. reprobate
    September 17, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    Wow! 125% of alt med users. It’s a conspiracy, I tell you. An outright conspiracy. And I know it has to be true since it is on the internet.
    Now, if only we could get someone to do something about it and while their at it, take care of that insidious, toxic substance: Di Hydrogen Monoxide, since everyone who has ever had any contact with the stuff dies…

  9. September 17, 2015 at 6:49 PM

    The news is 99% sensationalist bullshit these days. Sigh.

  10. Chris
    September 17, 2015 at 7:53 PM

    True. But it least it has a video of the river location, and a bit of a timeline.

  11. Mrs Pointer
    September 17, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    The theory is that 13 alternative doctors were murdered by… well it’s not exactly clear who, but it’s bound to be Big Pharma, or the FDA, or the Government… and they were killed because of their work with GcMAF. In more elaborate versions of the theory, they had all discovered that an enzyme called nagalase was being put into vaccines to cause cancer, chronic viral infections autism, etc.

    The problems with this theory are:

    1. Only 4 out of 13 were murders (plus one that was a murder suicide). In all but one the persons of interest appear to be intimates or business associates, as is the case with the vast majority of murders.

    2. One of the deaths (the second or third) was a young chiropractor who died while on a trip to seek a manipulation by an interstate colleague. The circumstances that led to his death have been widely discussed among the Florida chiropractic community – including with Erin Elizabeth who described them as “shocking” – but have not been made public. The founder of the chain of clinics this young man worked in is a friend and co-author with Elizabeth’s husband, Joseph Mercola. See also:

    link to quackwatch.com

    3. 7 out of 13 were entirely conventional practitioners, in specialties such as gynaecology, pulmonology or emergency medicine. One was a conventional nurse. Two were chiropractors. Three of them were actually retired.

    4. None of the 13 except Bradstreet had any recorded interest or connection with the GcMAF scam.

    5. Nagalase (N-acetylgalactosaminidase) is a normal human enzyme which is essential to glycoprotein synthesis and metabolism. It is constantly being made and broken down by human cells with a half life of 24-48 hours. It is not produced by viruses. Except for when it is deficient (Schindler’s disease) there is no credible evidence it plays any role in human disease. The directors of the Dutch pathology company that provided most of the “nagalase testing” have been arrested for fraud, forgery and money laundering:

    link to dutchnews.nl

    6. There is no credible evidence that administering GcMAF has any therapeutic value at all. The original human “trials” by Yamamoto et al have mostly been retracted because the papers were frankly fraudulent. Nearly all the subsequent papers have been written by the company flogging the stuff over the internet and published in pay-to-print “journals” with poor to non-existent editorial oversight. The company and its principal players are under criminal investigation in multiple countries.

    link to retractionwatch.com

    It was inevitable that Bradstreet’s suicide following the raid on his clinic would result in conspiracy speculation, and it’s clear that the Dead Doctors Conspiracy theory is a transparent attempt to divert attention away from his involvement in the GcMAF scam before his death. The company selling the stuff has also cynically seized on the theory to explain away the criminal actions against them.

  12. September 17, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    Wow. Thanks for this information! With references too. That’s the way to comment, folks.

  13. Mrs Pointer
    September 18, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    A correction: it’s actually 5 out of 15 US deaths that were homicides, but it’s difficult to keep track of Erin Elizabeth’s morbid List.

    There are about 16,000 homicides a year in the US, and these are more likely to be reported in the media than other causes of death, for obvious reasons. In the majority of cases the perpetrator is known to the victim. Out of the five actual homicides on Erin’s List, two husbands have been charged with the murders. Both husbands are suspects in previous violent crimes as well.

    link to miaminewtimes.com
    link to abc7news.com

    In a third case, the husband’s “best friend” has been charged. He is also a person of interest in a previous case:

    link to winknews.com

    In a fourth, a person of interest has been identified, but there are no charges yet:

    link to wtae.com

    The fifth remains unsolved, but (perhaps unreliable) reports suggest a home invasion and robbery:

    link to gossipextra.com

    Three deaths on Erin’s List were gun suicides. There are about 41,000 suicides a year in the US, 21,000 by gun. About 400 a year are physicians. While it’s impossible to know exactly what was going through the minds of these victims, it’s notable that two were facing legal problems and one death occurred shortly after a public argument with his wife:

    link to washingtonpost.com
    link to mprnews.org
    link to postcrescent.com

    Four deaths may be associated with accident or misadventure. There are about 98,000 such deaths a year in the US. One was a cardiologist who fell from a balcony trying to get into his house after his keys were stolen. One death followed a car accident. One is a 74 year old retiree who went missing after his car became bogged in a remote pea field in Wisconsin. And Erin Elizabeth remains tight-lipped about the circumstances of the young chiropractor’s death, despite discussing this with “a few other verified chiropractors, [who] wrote me with a rather shocking cause of death”.

    link to healthnutnews.com
    link to healthnutnews.com
    link to kbzk.com
    link to healthnutnews.com

    And the other three deaths appear to be sudden cardiac deaths. Two were in men in their late 60s, and two occurred during vigorous exercise. There are 610,000 cardiac deaths a year in the US.

    link to cdc.gov

    There are about 900,000 practising physicians (MD and DO) in the US. Erin’s List also includes chiropractors and a dentist and a nurse, as well as three retirees. While every death is tragic in its own way, there is nothing statistically anomalous about these fifteen deaths, and nothing about the circumstances that suggests a pattern of “assassinations”.

    (Well, you asked for links!)

  14. September 19, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    And I appreciate it!

  15. September 19, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    “The German conference episode is not so mysterious any longer:

    It was a so called “Psycholyse”-experiment to gain an expansion of consciousness.

  16. Mrs Pointer
    September 19, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Erin Elizabeth also has a second list, comprised of five chiropractors who died in car accidents. Originally she wrote:

    “Most of the deaths reported to me, I am able to rule out as being particularly suspicious.

    “But these 5 DC’s deaths in recent months just leave me with a few questions.

    “In less than 30 days 2 chiropractors were driving with their kids (in neither case were the moms with them) and both crashed into large semis in front of them. The cases are so similar I actually keep confusing the two.”

    A friend of mine posted a polite comment pointing out that one of these deaths was actually an old report from over a year ago, and that Erin appeared to have misread the date; and that given the number of chiropractors (75,000) and annual road deaths (about 33,000) there is nothing statistically suspicious about the series. Erin deleted his comment, and altered the text of her article without acknowledgement.

    I have serious doubts that she is sincere in her “questions”.

    link to rationalwiki.org

    You can compare her revised text with a copy of the original that is preserved on another site:

    link to healthnutnews.com
    link to rumormillnews.com

  17. September 20, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Link?

  18. Mrs Pointer
    September 20, 2015 at 9:19 PM

    A statement from the Association of German Heilpraktiker (naturopaths) suggests that this was a gathering of a fringe group. It also describes the ingestion of the drug by participants as “misdemeanours”:

    “The Association of German Healing Practitioners (VDH), which represents homeopaths as well as other naturopaths, quickly distanced itself from the embarrassment. In a statement, it said none of its representatives took hallucinogens during the ‘incident’ in Handeloh.

    ” ‘The organisers of this obscure conference are unknown to us and such events will not be tolerated by our Association,’ a spokesperson said. ‘Unfortunately, the conference in Handeloh has severely damaged the image of the alternative medicine profession…and we have clarified that such acts are not in the spirit of natural therapy, and contradict our values both morally and legally. The Association of German Healing Practitioners (Heilpraktikers) detests such misdemeanours.’ ”

    link to independent.co.uk

    “Psycholyse” or “psycholytic psychotherapy” is a fringe psychothereutic technique which involves taking hallucinogens and other illicit drugs. It is of some public interest in Germany after the deaths of two participants in Berlin in 2009.

    link to bild.de

    See also:

    link to psiram.com

  19. Mrs Pointer
    September 20, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    The New York Times is reporting the most recent death – that of Mitchell Gaynor – as a suicide, according to the county sheriff’s office:

    link to nytimes.com

  20. September 22, 2015 at 1:30 PM

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