Woman died after injection of oxygen by holistic quacks

We don’t know the details of why these women did such a questionable thing but the choice was deadly to one.

PD: Woman died after ‘Octozone’ treatment – 8 News NOW

Metro Police released more information about the suspicious death of an elderly woman that happened in August of last year after an unapproved medical procedure.

Karl Bachman and Cody Stoneking, who call themselves doctors, are facing second-degree murder charges for a victim over 60.

According to the arrest report, on Aug. 3, 2014 the victim, Kim Wang Liu, 74, flew to Las Vegas with her daughter Liy Liu, to participate in something called “Octozone.”

According to the report, Octozone treatments are intravenous injections given to people as a preventative treatment to stay healthy and kill pathogens in the blood.

The women visited the quacks at a Las Vegas apartment for the procedure whereby they were injected with a syringe filled with oxygen.

Kim Wang Liu died Aug. 12, 2014 at a local hospital of what doctors believe was an embolism after she had a seizure and went unconscious after the second treatment. The men then vacated their apartment.

The two called themselves holistic doctors but it’s not clear that they are doctors at all and most likely are not since they did not show up in the Nevada medical board’s licensing search.

Here are some basic rules of survival:

  1. Don’t go to “holistic” healers.
  2. Always check for your “doctor’s” medical license (homeopaths and naturopaths are typically NOT medical doctors.)
  3. Alternative treatments are untested, often do not work, and can be dangerous. Don’t use them.

What these despicable characters did was wrong and now they face murder charges though they deny wrongdoing. They claim Octozone is a water purifier, which it actual is. But that’s not how they allegedly used it. You can find Octozone Oxygen treatment promoted by naturopaths. It’s not new either. I found a patent: H. W. SCHUETTE OCTOZONE GENERATOR Filed July 10, 1939 which mentions that oxygen has historically been delivered via inhalation or injection as a treatment almost since its discovery in the late 1700s. It’s said that use of oxygen as germicide, detoxifying agent, and as a means to charge red blood cells with oxygen, revitalizes the cells and tissues and produces energy. Well, we need to breathe oxygen but we can typically get enough from regular air. Injecting the gas is not done though there is an emergency medical method using microparticles. This octozone treatment in question likely caused bubbles of oxygen in the blood. It seems that this is tolerable for some but not in this case.

This tragedy could have been spared had the patients been skeptical and sought qualified advice. Spread the word.

  9 comments for “Woman died after injection of oxygen by holistic quacks

  1. Vondrax
    May 13, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    I would have thought that the ‘holistic doctors’ involved would have known enough about (oh, I don’t know, science maybe) to be aware that air injected into a closed fluid pumping system can cause what we used to call ‘vapor lock’ in the pump itself if the bubble is not distributed enough. In this case, the pump is the heart, and i was told once (a long time ago) that 20cc of air is all it takes. This is not the only problem that can arise from injecting air into a fluid system.

  2. Blargh
    May 13, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    Note that the patent claims the apparatus creates tetraoxygen or hexaoxygen, which is… chemically implausible, to say the least. The only thing that machine could manufacture is ozone. Plain old ozone.

    And googling around, it seems that for naturoquacks, “octozone” is to ozone what “Brown’s gas”/”HHO” is to oxyhydrogen – i.e. a known, perfectly ordinary gas but produced by a specialized machine and claimed to be an allotrope with miraculous properties. What’s a water purifier, “an active form of pure oxygen” and “a powerful germicide and detoxifying agent”? Ozone. Plain old nasty, toxic ozone.

  3. Bonnie
    May 13, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    “This tragedy could have been spared had the patients been skeptical and sought qualified advice.”

    True – but miracle “cures” for old age and disease are just too tempting sometimes. There’s too much of a “doctors won’t tell you” mindset. 🙁

  4. Richard
    May 13, 2015 at 4:08 PM

    Indeed, even if the person were ignorant of Science, there are a number of murder-mystery films, tv episodes, and books where injecting air into a vein was the cause of death

  5. Mark
    May 13, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    I’ve been seeing “ozone therapy” promoted by one of the anti-vax quacks Robert Rowen, who claims to have cured ebola with O3 injections. He claims that the govt of Sierra Leone won’t let him back into the country to perform more treatments. Whatever.

  6. Adam
    May 14, 2015 at 4:36 AM

    Clint Eastwood demonstrates the procedure:

  7. Lancelot Gobbo
    May 14, 2015 at 5:23 AM

    First used in fiction by Dorothy L. Sayers in Unnatural Death, I believe. Air embolism is something we guard against when running IV’s (one reason why bottles of IV solutions are no longer seen – they don’t collapse, and since you have to let air in as they drip, allowing them to run dry will simply continue to send air down the tube). It generally takes about 20ml of air to cause the ‘air lock’ in the heart that kills, so don’t panic about the odd little bubble in IV tubing.

  8. Richard
    May 14, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    That was one of the stories I was thinking of, I have all of Ms. Sayers’ fiction and some of her plays & non-fiction as well. Her Papers on Dante are wonderful.

  9. Gregory Walters
    July 25, 2015 at 12:37 AM

    The police did not find any record of credentials, experience, or training for either of the two perpetrators therefore, this is not a case of a bad practice (as it was no practice at all – but these guys were pretenders)..
    http://www.thejournal.ie/las-vegas-octozone-death-naturopathic-treatment-2090399-May2015/

    Here is a the practitioner that a few of the above commenters have made reference to..

    And that guy – Dr. Richard Rowen – is a graduate of Johns Hopkins, board certified, etc.

    I whatever this guy is doing, appears to me to be something that actually works!

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