Vaccines required but some remain ignorantly defiant

A series of articles showed up online today highlighting mandated vaccinations. Some people, however, continue to hold misinformed views and are willing to sacrifice for it.

Foster mom says she’s willing to lose infant over flu shot mandate

In Washington state, foster families are under a new mandate that everyone in their house needs a flu shot if they have foster kids under two years of age. Jamie Smith of Tacoma is going to fight that even though she will lose her new 2-week old foster baby.

“I’ve done a lot of research on it and I don’t like some of the side effects that it has,” she said.

Smith says she’s worried about mercury in the vaccine and its effects on the brain. She doesn’t want her or her five children exposed to that even if it means losing the little one.

Take the kid away. There are other families who would willingly take a baby who are more suited to understanding health care needs. Mercury as a preservative in vaccines is not harmful and you can get a vaccine without mercury. This woman is clueless.

Nurses at certain Washington hospitals are also required to get a flu shot for obvious reasons – they can easily transmit the illness to compromised hospital patients.

Pierce County nurses suing over mandatory flu shots | KOMO News.

The flu season has reached epidemic proportions, according to the Centers for Disease Control. The CDC recommends everyone who can should get a flu shot, but MultiCare is taking it one step further by requiring every employee to get a flu shot or make a plea to a special committee as to why they shouldn’t.

The Washington State Nurses Association said failure to do so could mean termination.

Some nurses are allergic to eggs and others won’t get it for religious reasons or harmful side effects. This makes no sense. If the reasons are valid, like a documented egg allergy, alternatives can be provided. But fear of “harmful side effects” is bogus since those are extremely rare and the benefit outweighs the risk. Driving a car has harmful side effects too but people do it for their jobs as well as many other activities. For those opposing the need for vaccines for their job, find another job you are more suited for. Health care ain’t it.

Finally, New York Vaccine Requirement Is Lawful, a 2nd Court Says – NYTimes.com.

New York State’s requirement that children be vaccinated before attending public school does not violate their constitutional rights, a federal appeals court in Manhattan said on Wednesday.

In affirming the requirement’s constitutionality, a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit also upheld a previous ruling by a federal judge that students exempted from the requirement for religious reasons can be barred from school when another child has a disease preventable by a vaccine.

The decision was the latest to go against three parents from New York City who say their religious rights were violated when their children were kept out of school as a result of the immunization policies. The parents’ lawyer, Patricia Finn, said her clients planned to appeal to the United States Supreme Court.

What about the rights of those who don’t want their children exposed to preventable diseases? The plaintiffs argued that scientific evidence shows vaccines are harmful and that there was “rampant fraud” in the vaccine program. It’s not cited where this information was obtained. Counsel seems eager to take this to the highest court who have not yet heard such an argument. I’d be very surprised if they would rule against the overwhelming scientific evidence for vaccines as a critical public health requirement. The misinformed rantings of a few very opinionated people do not trump the scientific consensus and the huge historical legacy of vaccination success.

  8 comments for “Vaccines required but some remain ignorantly defiant

  1. Richard
    January 10, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    I was one of the kids who had an adverse reaction to the live (though attenuated) virus Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine. I was sick for several weeks and still have retinal scarring. Fortunately most of my vision was preserved, though I live with multiple pairs of glasses and a sensitivity to light (friends describe my house as a cave because all the light bulbs in the house are low wattage due to my photosensitivity).

    I am also an adamant proponent of vaccination: if I had that kind of reaction to the vaccine, exposure to the viral agents of the actual illness probably would have killed me.

    People have forgotten how horrific diseases like measles, small pox, diphtheria, pertussis, polio, were in prior generations and what a boon to humanity to have vaccinations: I hope we do not re-learn the lesson due to the tragic deaths of children because entitled parents swayed by ignorant celebrities refuse to receive treatments modern science has brought us.

  2. BobM
    January 10, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    I well remember – being old – the results of polio. I have a friend who is deaf because of measles, and another who lost a testicle because of mumps. Old people remember this stuff :-).

  3. Cathy
    January 11, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    You don’t need to be old. We are still seeing people hospitalised as a result of shingles. My son’s kindy teacher took early retirement because her shingles were so bad she ended up taking most of the year off sick. My children were vaccinated for chicken pox as soon as it became available.

  4. Kurt
    January 12, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    My grandmother was crippled her entire life and had to suffer at the children’s hospital thanks to Polio. Luckily, she lived into her 80’s and just had a limp.

  5. Mitch
    January 12, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Should your headline have read “ignorantly defiant”, or….
    defiantly ignorant?

  6. Bill T.
    January 13, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    Welfare children are wards of the state, hebce a welfare parent is required to adhere to state instructions. Any refusal to do so, for whatever reason, is wilfull ignorance.

  7. March 20, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    I grew up singing America the Beautiful, Yankee Doodle, God Bless America, and the Star Spangled Banner. I watch our citizens enter the military and fight for our rights. I remember people saying “I don’t like what you say, but I believe in the freedom of speech.”

    What happened? Now you can take your child to the hospital and your child is taken away from you because you wanted a second opinion.

    Doctors don’t all agree on everything. Where do you get the idea that medicine is based on black and white science?

    Well, that’s because we don’t have freedom of speech or freedom of the press. Because the newspapers, TV stations, radio, advertising are all controlled by 6 corporation and a small group of people. The same people who own the pharmaceutical companies.

    What I want to hear from the provaxers – is we need debate on TV and radio between the antivaxers and the provaxers. Lots of debate. Because if your side is right, it will stand up to open debate.

    You convince the antivaxers to get vaccinated. You don’t take away people’s freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of press, and personal freedom by making vaccines mandatory.

    America is supposed to be the Land of the Free. Don’t you still believe in that? I do.

  8. March 21, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    This is a science-based site and the science is clear on vaccinations, evolution, global warming, etc. Science isn’t done by democracy. There is no debate here. Those who aren’t convinced to be vaccinated are misinformed and misguided. A debate won’t help, they have to accept that science is the best way we have of getting reliable information and it’s safest to play those odds. In almost all cases, the fringe view on a scientific question is NOT correct.

    Pulling the patriotic angle is a fallacy. It has nothing to do with the scientific questions.

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