Ham shoots back at critics with Ark park advertising (UPDATE: Shot down)

There is a major update today. Kentucky has withdrawn tax incentives for the Ark Park. This ship is sunk. HUZZAH!

Kentucky: No tax breaks for Noah’s Ark project.

Tourism Secretary Bob Stewart says the planned project had evolved from a tourism attraction into an outreach for the Christian ministry that is building it. Stewart wrote in a letter Wednesday to the group’s lawyer that “state tourism tax incentives cannot be used to fund religious indoctrination.”

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Originally published 09-Dec-2014

In a followup to this story: Greenbacks and Ham: Ark park money may fall through due to religious discrimination, we might need to send a Waaambulance to Answers in Genesis HQ. They don’t like people skeptical of the Ark park. What to do? Put up inane billboards, of course. That always works.

Noah’s Ark park plans billboards to counter criticism.

Answers in Genesis announced Monday that it will run 16 billboards, including in Louisville, Lexington and Frankfort, directing people to the group’s website for more information about the project.

The group says it wants to counter “myths” about the project’s future hiring policies and use of tax dollars, which it said are being spread by the media and secular activists. It plans to continue the campaign into January.

In July, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority gave preliminary approval for the park to participate in a state tax-incentive program. The deal would let the park keep 25 percent of the sales tax it collects for 10 years, amounting to more than $18 million.

But state tourism officials have cited fears that the project won’t comply with state and federal law, and before giving final approval, they have asked for assurances that it will not discriminate on the basis of religion.

Yet, it’s been made pretty obvious that they will be somewhat discriminatory. That is, the park itself promotes religion so the employees will be expected to subscribe to that belief or at least promote it enthusiastically as part of the park. But Ark Encounter is allowed to give employment preferences based on religion under both state and federal law.

Regardless, this project was a boondoggle from the get go and should never have been approved. Ham’s Creation Museum is facing troubles, the project could not raise money (Ham blamed the mean old liberal atheists), and Ham got skewered in a debate with Bill Nye. It’s going to take a lot more than billboards in Kentucky to keep this ship afloat.

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Oh really? But lawyers can. And did.


Cartoon dinosaurs advertise cartoonish ideas about nature at the Creation museum

Farking ark: Trying to float it on faith doesn’t bode well for investors.

  14 comments for “Ham shoots back at critics with Ark park advertising (UPDATE: Shot down)

  1. December 10, 2014 at 4:30 AM

    Pushing back against state funding of a propaganda show promoting an exclusive minority religious view robustly contradicted by all relevant science? Damn those intolerant liberals.

    Note to intolerant liberals: This venue tolerates all faiths, creeds and worldviews as long as they are fundamentalist Christian, exclusively heterosexual, paternalistic and preferably white.

  2. Matthew Baker
    December 10, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Judging from from the prices of billboard rentals for Kentucky 16 billboards would make a nice down payment on an animatronic baby dinosaur.

  3. chemical
    December 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    “Thank God you can’t sink this ship”?

    First, the ship in question needs to actually float. I remember in the Nye-Ham debate Nye pointed out that Ark wouldn’t actually be able to hold itself together on the open sea. Seems to me like I don’t even need to try to sink his ship. It’s one thing to build an Ark replica, another to build a functional and structurally sound Ark.

    It’s like claiming that since I have a replica TARDIS, there clearly was a real time-travelling, regenerating alien known as The Doctor, as foretold by the prophets working at BBC. The Doctor loves humanity if you believe in him! Also, I need money.

  4. December 10, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Headline: Church of the Doctor Founded, Immediately Schisms Into 13 Separate Denominations

    And this is before you factor in the movies, Big Finish, OldWho vs. NuWho, and Scream of the Shalka.

  5. Bill T.
    December 10, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Thank God it’s firmly established on it’s foundations on land and won’t need to demonstrate it’s unsinkability?


    “Thank god you can’t sink this ship (because it would actually have to float to do so)”?

  6. Headless Unicorn Guy
    December 10, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    I’ve been keeping one eye on this train wreck since I first heard about it on Internet Monk four-five years ago.
    ( http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-disney-ization-of-faith )

    One thing that’s always bugged me is the design of Ham’s Ark. The hull’s an enlarged Bronze Age merchant ship hull, complete with ram bow and upsweep at the stern. WHAT IS IT DOING WITH A RAM BOW? The Ark wouldn’t need to maneuver, only float.

    Many years ago, I saw a magazine photo of a Noah’s Ark diorama in some maritime museum. Their Ark was a squared-off raft hull with three decks built on top. Their rationale was that “Ark” meant box so it was probably boxy and all it needed to do was float. Plus that Noah, being no shipbuilder, would go for the simplest possible design.

  7. Colonel Tom
    December 11, 2014 at 12:43 AM

    Yes, and given that Bible only mentions dimensions of length and width, it would surely indicate a square shape, as just having a width and depth are not sufficient to indicate a curved hull design.
    Conversely, how sea worthy would a square raft design me in the stormy seas as the rains fell and the water’s rose? Not to mention as the elephants shifted weight around.

    There was a funny comment on one of the local online papers, about since Noah and his family had sufficient resources to build the Ark, than Ham should be able to knock out an Ark off using bronze age tools with a couple of dozen faithful workers.
    He could use some of the dead ash tree we have from the green ash bore.

    I really don’t get why a quarter of six percent sales tax, a 1.5 percent extra profit on each dollar spent, is enough to change this from a viable to an in-viable project.

  8. eddi
    December 11, 2014 at 1:18 AM

    With a name like Ham, he should know his Old Testament better. Noah never liked that kid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham

  9. Brandon
    December 11, 2014 at 3:09 AM

    This is probably the news Ham and friends wanted to hear. Now they can blame the failure of their ark venture on those intolerant liberals and the government (and Obama of course). They will say they are being persecuted and blah blah blah, conveniently hiding the fact that they screwed up and failed.

  10. Tom
    December 11, 2014 at 3:15 AM

    The Ark Park is not a bad idea as a sort of faith Disneyland.
    The Ark itself could be packed with full-size mechanical versions all the animals that Noah rescued and will give Mr Ham a good idea of how crowded it must have got.

  11. Chris Howard
    December 11, 2014 at 8:51 AM

    The headline led me to believe that there would be a pork product assaulting vegetarians with firearms!

    I am sadly mistaken.

    I still hope he parks the Ark across the Ohio River from my house, and they turn it into a theme restaurant!

  12. ChristineRose
    December 11, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    He can still build the worthless thing if he can get enough funding. It’s like he’s admitting that it won’t “float” without tax dollars.

  13. Colonel Tom
    December 11, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    Please don’t repeat the wildly untrue glib that project is getting state tax dollars. They are seeking a rebate of 1/4 of the sales tax collected for a number of years, although I’m not entirely sure they’d not get the funds up front. It is hard to see where the state’s coffers would suffer, as the incentive would be to reduce collected taxes. In general, these often have negative effects on state funds because new business don’t actually generate new tax revenues, but rather just cannibalize sales from existing sources, however that is another kind of insanity. This project though, really does not have much competition, except for other vacation dollars, and I don’t see there being much competition for these dollars.

    Also, here is the local NPR story


    Given that I still have some insight into the affairs of Grant County, we received a sizable chunk of change from the rather excessive hotel/motel tax that we had in the county, it still seems to be a fiscally smart/morally bankrupt plan to support the Ark Park. If built, itmight have changed the county’s stance on occupational taxes.

  14. Mike C.
    December 15, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    That ship is never going to float anyway, even if he gets it built.

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