Is it ‘occultists’ or plain old political infighting that is making a mess of Wells?

Uh oh, when your town goes woo-ey, the politicians give up and run away.

UKIP candidate for Wells Jake Baynes resigns: claims Glastonbury occult infiltrated party | Western Daily Press.

One of the highest-profile Ukip candidates at the next General Election sensationally resigned tonight – along with his local party chairman – amid bizarre claims that the party had been ‘infiltrated by the Glastonbury occult’.

Jake Baynes was due to stand in next May’s election for Ukip in the Wells constituency, but resigned – claiming there was civil war within the party in Somerset and a vendetta against him, and he ‘wanted nothing more to do with politics’.

The Wells Ukip branch chairman Graham Livings also quit his post, claiming that the Somerset party had been ‘infiltrated’ by ‘devotees of the occult’ based around the alternative community in Glastonbury.

But two leading members of Ukip in Somerset, who run a healing centre which claims divine intervention from the Archangel Michael, dismissed the ‘occult’ claims as ‘ridiculous’.

The candidates, of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) were fed up with interference by interlopers from Glastonbury – a community that has turned into a hub of people who hold various mystical and magical beliefs. They call Wells a fractured community due to the political leanings. Wells is near Glastonbury and Stonehenge as well as having several historical religious and architecture sites of its own, making it a popular tourist attraction.

“These people say that they take angelic guidance and defer in all things to St Michael the Archangel – and at the same time we’re experiencing such vitriol and bile from them. I don’t have to put up with it, so I am resigning,” he said.

Well, can you blame him? There is no reasoning with people who take their direction via angels. They seem so self-righteous. The angel reiki devotees resent being called “occultists”. It is used as a term of derision by the politicians who feel, perhaps rightly so, that their spiritual, supernatural agenda is a bit off the mainstream. They assert reiki IS virtually mainstream. Not really, it’s still patently ridiculous.

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  11 comments for “Is it ‘occultists’ or plain old political infighting that is making a mess of Wells?

  1. spookyparadigm
    July 31, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    The UKIP is Britain’s equivalent of the Tea Party. Would we treat Tea Partiers attacking people for occultism here with the same semi-approving manner?

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/17/ukip-the-battle-for-britain

    • chemical
      July 31, 2014 at 12:42 PM

      I’d call it a stopped-clock moment for the Tea Party if they started attacking crazy occult beliefs. This, of course, in no way justifies any of the Tea Party’s other crazy occult beliefs.

      One of those pot calling the kettle black scenarios.

      • spookyparadigm
        July 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM

        The first book out against Ancient Aliens in the 1970s was from a devout Christian perspective. The Satanic Panic began as a Christian reaction to several changes in the 1960s, but one of the most pointed “offenses” was the legal and social tolerance of non-JudeoChristian religions, be they neopaganism or imports from Buddhism and Hinduism. And right now, the most popular debunking of the Ancient Aliens show and related beliefs is from a Deluge and Illuminati conspiracy theory dealing video maker.

        This isn’t calling esoteric or occult beliefs as irrational. This is fighting off the competition, or I suspect more likely in this case, literally demonizing people you don’t like. As I noted at the link, UKIP says they want a Christian Britain.

        I don’t see this as any different than that school (I wanna say Louisiana) that told a non-Christian student to go to another school where there were more Asians.

        Give me the choice between some folks reading tarot cards, and a politicized bunch of aggressive theocrats, and I know where my sympathies lie.

        • Headless Unicorn Guy
          August 2, 2014 at 6:56 PM

          The first book out against Ancient Aliens in the 1970s was from a devout Christian perspective.

          That wouldn’t happen to be “Crash go the Chariots”, would it? Don’t remember much this far down the road, but it probably debunked Von Daniken by counterclaiming it was either Miracles or (probably more common) DEMONS and ended with either an End Time Prophecy tie-in and/or an Altar Call with the Plan of Salvation(TM).

          Since a 6000-year-old, Earth-and-some-lights-in-the-sky Punyverse has no room for aliens (and does not define Angels — sentient non-humans — or Demons — sociopath Angels — as such), there can be no Aliens, only Angels or (more frequently) DEMONS(TM)! This has surfaced many times, pro and con, on various Christian blogs. My favorite was one commenter when the subject surfaced at Internet Monk a couple years ago: “There are no aliens. The Greys are Fallen Ones here to deceive us. No, I am not a conspiracy crackhead.”

          I currently belong to a church that has thought about First Contact since the 9th Century, when “aliens” were “monstrous races” (like dog-headed men) living not on other planets but in distant lands. Questions as to whether such monstrous races were human in the sight of God and what should be the Church’s policy and theology towards them. Such as Ratramnus “Epistle regarding the Dogheads”:
          http://bedejournal.blogspot.com/2009/08/ratramnus-and-dog-heads.html

  2. Rich
    July 31, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    I don’t think anyone who heals with the help of an archangel has a very well-developed sense of the ‘ridiculous.’

  3. Karl
    July 31, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    The greens in Canada started titling alt med, wifi/wind power sickness, anti vax, pro chiro. Luckily they also have big support among more rational, science based types who told the party leader they can’t be the party of hippy woo if they hope to gain respectable support.

    The Canadian Reform party (which merged with the Canadian Conservative party) became the go to party for white supremacists. Think of the Canadian Reform party as a 90s version of the Tea Party and the Canadian conservative party as Eisenhower era GOP. The Reform party realized they had no chance at power with racist kooks signing up. They had a huge purge at some point.

    • Headless Unicorn Guy
      August 2, 2014 at 7:04 PM

      I used to work in elections and down here in the States I always called The Reform Party the “Ross Perot for President Party”.

      In US politics, you get a LOT of Third Parties popping up and vanishing. Most of them have One Member (the Founder) and run One Candidate (the same) for One Office (President). Later developments have been Conspiracy Theory as to why their One Candidate for that One Office never made it when he was Obviously The Best Man For The Office.

      Messiah Politics surfaces every 12 to 20 years, when some charismatic candidate runs a charismatic campaign for President as Personal LORD and Savior. Ross Perot tried it in 1992 and both Ron Paul & Barack Obama tried it in 2008. All had supporters which could only be described as Fundamentalists whose God was their Candidate. I encountered it from my Perotista parents in ’92 and from both Ron Paul & Barack Obama fanboys in 2008. And some of those fanboys are SCARY.

      • spookyparadigm
        August 2, 2014 at 11:19 PM

        If the Tea Party hadn’t been mainline injected into the GOP, with wealthy donors backing it and Fox News initially giving it huge help (Glenn Beck of course, but also incidents like that producer who got caught coaching some Tea Partiers for a televised rally), it probably would have snuffed out like you describe because back then, it basically was the Ron Paul party.

        To be blunt, had the incoming Democrat president been a typical white guy like Joe Biden, that’s probably what would have happened. He’d still be called a commie, still be stymied in the Congress, still have lots of politically motivated investigations, etc. (never minding the more legit bipartisan stuff that should be investigated *cough*NSA*cough*). And some of their biggest issues (immigration in particular) is more deepseated, and was what helped damage Bush II when he parted ways with the nativist set.

        But I don’t think the Ron Paul people would have so easily transitioned into the base of the GOP screaming “We need to take our country back!” or a majority of the party (as polls showed) believing the president was part of a conspiracy to hide his birthplace, religion, etc..

  4. August 1, 2014 at 4:43 AM

    I’m not sure how much chance the Kippers would have had down there in Narnia anyway.

  5. Artor
    August 2, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    Well, if the NewAge types here could infiltrate & run off the Teabaggers, I’d consider it a good thing. The sum of irrationality doesn’t change, but at least the most virulent, poisonous variety could be swapped for something marginally less horrible.

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