The truth will come out about Egypt’s nonsense hepatitis device

This is extremely annoying. Why are they doing this? The truth will out. (An update from earlier pieces.) It’s a ploy to say “needs more testing”.

We noted back in February the dubious claim that a dowsing-rod gadget was claimed to diagnose and cure AIDS and hepatitis. It is a divining device (which DO NOT WORK) that is supposed to swing towards people who suffer from hepatitis C but remain motionless in the presence of those who don’t. The tests have been biased. Also, there is no mechanism for such a reaction.

This piece calls the nonsense a “sign of the times” in Egypt.

Despite ridicule, Egypt pushes ahead with AIDS, hepatitis ‘cure’ – Los Angeles Times.

Egypt’s military on Saturday pressed ahead with promotion of a fanciful device it claims can diagnose and cure AIDS and hepatitis, announcing that it would be tested in the next six months on larger numbers of patients in army hospitals.

The military’s supposedly miraculous medical device — a metal gizmo that has been described as resembling a kitchen hand mixer — drew wide ridicule when it was unveiled in February as the invention of an army general. Even a science advisor to the then-interim president, Adly Mansour, said the claim that it cures viruses had no scientific basis.

Nonetheless, at a news conference Saturday, with only selected Egyptian news outlets allowed to attend, officials again said that it had successfully treated some patients and that the device would be used on 160 more for testing purposes over the next six months. Egypt has an extremely high rate of hepatitis C, which is generally considered to be among the most serious of the hepatitis viruses.

The device was set to be in hospitals this month but the testing agenda has (conveniently) delayed widespread us of the device.

In February, major general Ibrahim Abdulatty, had presented what he called a “miraculous scientific invention” to a high level audience. A device called C-Fast was described as being able to detect illnesses including Aids and hepatitis C. A related dialysis unit called “complete cure device” was also unveiled.

C-fast is a dowsing rod that relies on the ideomotor effect. It only detects what the user of the device feels is worth detection. Dowsing rods have failed scientific tests for decades but feel convincing to the users.

Egypt is cracking down on dissent in all political arenas. Is this a way to hype themselves? It seems that the device was announced as a ploy to drum up support for president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi’s.

I suspect their “tests” may come out promising because they will need to get the answer they want. They are not being open with disclosing the details or allowing experts to examine the device. They are also concocting the excuse that it does not work on advanced stages of the disease.

I’m even more convinced this will go down as a record of pathological, politically motivated science. Such diversions tend to be disastrous for the countries involved.

Egyptian Army unlikely to survive the moment of truth: Sting operation reveals flawed science behind the ‘Complete Cure Device’ | Egypt Independent.

See Short Introduction to Lysenkoism.

Dowsing for hepatitis (UPDATE: See patent application) | Doubtful News.

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  7 comments for “The truth will come out about Egypt’s nonsense hepatitis device

  1. WMcCreery
    June 30, 2014 at 12:01 AM

    What is the motivation behind this!? It won’t work then what?

    • Joe Kellett
      June 30, 2014 at 7:44 PM

      It will definitely “work”. Facts will be created/altered/ignored to fit the hypothesis. See for example this (http://goo.gl/HIfCEU) thing.

  2. Peter Robinson
    June 30, 2014 at 12:01 AM

    Just to clarify. There are two devices in question. The C-Fast is supposed to be the ‘detection’ device, which closely resembles the fake bomb detectors (amazingly still reportedly in use in Mexico, Pakistan and Iraq a year after the two main perpetrators were convicted on fraud charges).

    The second is the CCD (Complete Cure Device) which looks from reports to be similar to a dialysis type machine.

    It is actually a positive that their deployment has been delayed for further testing. The chief scientific advisor to the Egyptian President, along with a number of bloggers in Egypt have bravely questioned the legitimacy of both these devices. Bravely because they were developed by an army unit, and of the army is considered to be untouchable there, as well as having a virtual monopoly position in business matters.

    It is now up to experst in the fields of HIV/AIDS and Hep C to pressurise the Egyptian Government to prevent these silly and dangerous devices from ever seeing the light of day by ensuring that if they must carry out further testing that it is done correctly.

    The back off from the outrageous earlier claims was in fact predicted by Pepijn Van Erp in Holland, who did much to bring these devices to the attention of the World outside Egypt, on the basis that once Sisi was elected, the demands for the propaganda value of ‘miracle’ cures would be less insistent.

    • Tribeca Mike
      July 1, 2014 at 2:23 PM

      Good to know the chief scientific advisor to the Egyptian President has been critical of this scam. Thanks for the info.

  3. Peter Robinson
    June 30, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    An Egyptian blogger who has campaigned against C-Fast and the CCD suggests that the sixth month delay is just a smokescreen to save face, and that the announcement of the delay and additional testing really means the end for these dodgy devices. See here:

    https://twitter.com/moftasa/status/483162052186615808

    Let’s hope so!

  4. Tribeca Mike
    June 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Promoting a device with a 100% failure rate is an awfully short-sighted way to drum up support for their government, but considering the recent all-too obviously trumped-up trial of two Al Jazeera English journalists and the other “trial” of hundreds of Morsi’s supporter, I’m not at all surprised.

    • Vin
      June 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM

      An Australian Journalist has also been jailed for 6 years for “reporting false news”….certainly IS a sign of the times….astounded that this can happen in 2014….BUT …it’s NOT 2014 in MOST of Egypt and the mid-east…sounds racist etc, but it’s simply true….parts have slid back at least 500 years.

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