Pope John Paul to be given sainthood after post mortem miracles

Some Papal PR going on here.

Vatican to announce John Paul II ‘miracle’

The Vatican has secretly attributed a mystery miracle to the late John Paul II, clearing the way for him to be declared a saint.

It concerns the “extraordinary healing” of a Costa Rican woman who was cured of a severe brain injury after her family began praying to the memory of the late Polish pope, according to reports in the Italian media.

Details of the miracle are likely to be announced at the end of this month or at the beginning of July, a Vatican insider told The Daily Telegraph.

John Paul’s first attributed miracle was the apparent healing of a French nun, Sister Marie Simon-Pierre.

Her recovery from Parkinson’s disease after praying for the late pope’s “intercession” had no medical explanation, the Catholic Church maintains.

The Polish pontiff is likely to be formally made a saint in the autumn — either on Oct 20 or Nov 24.

In order to be a saint you need to perform TWO miracles post mortem. The first pope John Paul II’s miracle happened on the day he was beatified, which is the first step towards sainthood.

And how do you prove a miracle? Well, by getting it recognized as one by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Causes of Saints. Totally no bias there I’m sure. Where are the medical records that would show she COULD NOT have had just a spontaneous remission? That is always an option, unless you are looking to bolster reputations. Nifty the way this “miracle” stuff works.

Photo credit: Reuters/Max Rossi

Photo credit: Reuters/Max Rossi

  11 comments for “Pope John Paul to be given sainthood after post mortem miracles

  1. One Eyed Jack
    June 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    I’m not Catholic, so I’m asking this seriously. Has there ever been a pope that wasn’t sainted? I mean, you’re God’s voice on Earth. That sort of gives you the inside tract, doesn’t it?

    I don’t understand how people can look at religions and not see the blatant hypocrisy. Even worse are the ones that can spot it in other religions and ignore it in their own.

  2. Warren
    June 20, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Meh. The Vatican created the two miracle rule, so they also get to define what they mean by miracle. There’s no reason to get upset about it: if they want to degrade the value of calling something a miracle, or make sainthood a common thing, it’s pretty much their own problem.

    It’s probably more useful to just point out the Vatican is changing the meaning of miracle from something impossible to something unlikely and now, perhaps, into something coincidental.

    I mean, if every catholic with parkinsons prays to someone, and a few are guaranteed to go into remission, do these guaranteed results count as miracles for the people they just happened to be praying to?

    Being a saint just loses its prestige at that point. No skin off my nose since I wasn’t in the running anyway.

  3. Chris Howard
    June 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Can anyone say pontificating Polish Pope, ten times really fast?

  4. June 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Praying to Pope John Paul is more effective then antineoplaston therapy. I guess I should not be surprised.

  5. Freethinking Fred
    June 20, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    I’ve never heard of praying to a dead pope. Seems like that pretty much goes against the first commandment of “not having any other God.”

  6. Shooter
    June 20, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    ^Think that has to do with the Catholic Church stealing a lot of it’s roots from it’s Roman heritage, it was common in Rome (stolen from Greek culture mind you, the Romans did that) to pray to a Patron or House God, just like a Patron Saint, you would pray to one that would help you in your vocation (i.e a solider would pray to Mars). Hell the throne of St. Peter is basically the Pontifex Maximus of Rome, it was the head of the Roman pantheon, got more politicized in the times of Caesar and Augustus, the major difference being the Pontifex was not seen a person the gods, or a god in particular, worked through as with the Pope, however Augusts was seen as a god post-humorously (sainthood)

  7. June 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    “I’m not Catholic, so I’m asking this seriously. Has there ever been a pope that wasn’t sainted?”

    Oh yeah. Only a handful have been declared saints. Remember that thing about power corrupting? It applies to popes, too. Anyone who reads a history of the Church can’t help but notice some really bad ones & a bunch of ineffectual popes. And I am Catholic. And not all that happy about JPII’s impending canonization. He had some major flaws that I’m sure won’t make into the hagiography. Not for a few years at any rate.

  8. One Eyed Jack
    June 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM


    Considering that history, doesn’t that present a problem with accepting that the Pope is ordained by God?

  9. June 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    “How can Pope John Paul II be a saint when thousands of children were raped or molested by priests under his leadership?”


  10. June 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Since the eleventh century only three popes have been canonized. Celestine V was an incompetent hermit who never should have been elected pope. He was canonized largely to insult the memory of his successor, Boniface VIII, who talked Celestine into quitting and then, after the resignation, threw him into a prison cell. Pius V conspired with Catherine de’ Medici to exterminate the Huguenots in France. The resulting St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre occurred shortly after his death. Pius X strongly opposed “modernism,” which included any music written after Gregorian chant and the scientific method. Like his predecessor he never once left the Vatican while he was pontiff because he considered himself a prisoner.

    I too am a little skeptical about whether J2P2 will be made a saint any time soon. For many in the Church hierarchy a bigger problem than his hands-off approach to the abuse scandals was the way that Bishop Marcinkus used the Vatican Bank. It lost millions of dollars while partnering with some of the seediest characters in Italy. At least one murder resulted from that affair.

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