Indiana Sen. Kruse transparent in attempt to undermine teaching of evolution (UPDATE)

In an update to this story about Indiana’s anti-evolution bill, good news is that one is dead and another has not surfaced as expected.

From NCSE:

Indiana’s House Bill 1283 died on February 25, 2013.

Claiming that “some subjects, including, but not limited to, science, history, and health, have produced differing conclusions and theories on some topics,” HB 1283 would have allowed teachers “to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review in an objective manner the strengths and weaknesses of conclusions and theories being presented in a course being taught by the teacher” and prohibited state and local education authorities from prohibiting them from doing so.

Kruse’s promised bill (see below) has not been introduced.

Originally posted December 5, 2012

Indiana senator resorts to a different slimey way to undermine teaching of evolution.

After creationism bill failed, Indiana senator will push ‘truth in education’ measure.

Sen. Dennis Kruse, who tried and failed in the last legislative session to let schools teach creationism along with evolution, said Tuesday he’s trying a new approach: Requiring teachers to provide evidence if students challenge their science lessons.

Kruse, an Auburn Republican who is chairman of the Senate Education and Career Development Committee, said he will dub it “truth in education.”

“If a student thinks something isn’t true, then they can question the teacher and the teacher would have to come up with some kind of research to support that what they are teaching is true or not true.”

Kruse said he won’t try again to pass legislation that would allow schools to teach religious-based views on how life was created.

And his goal is OBVIOUSLY still the same, to attempt to undermine evolution. He is laughably transparent. This, he said, “will be a totally different approach. It won’t mention religion. It won’t mention creation. It will just basically try to establish truth in our public schools.”

Truth? Truth comes from evidence, indeed. The scientific consensus regarding evolution as a united principle for biology that explains all life on earth would fill quite a number of classrooms full of evidence. A good example of this occurred during the Kitzmiller v Dover trial when Michael Behe tried to argue his view which was at odds with the current consensus. He was given a giant stack of papers and books. And that was just a small part of the theory and a small portion of the evidence.


  7 comments for “Indiana Sen. Kruse transparent in attempt to undermine teaching of evolution (UPDATE)

  1. Mr. Shreck
    December 5, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    So now we just wait for an Indiana science teacher to assert that a cinder block dropped on a congressman’s head will bounce. I demand proof!

  2. One Eyed Jack
    December 5, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    I’m confused. I guess I’m missing the angle. Is this because he believes there is no evidence for evolution?

    Want evidence for evolution? No problem.

  3. Massachusetts
    December 6, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    Isn’t the curriculum the teachers are presenting evidence in itself? They aren’t just saying “people evolved from other primates” but are also presenting the fossil evidence, among other things, upon which that statement is based.

  4. Dougie
    December 6, 2012 at 7:25 AM

    This could be great! I can see hoisting with his own petard here 🙂

  5. pete
    December 6, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    What an opening. The teacher could name a scientific source,or theory and ask the student to write a paper on the subject including the pros and cons of the reasoning, or facts behind it.

  6. Rand
    February 27, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Hmm.. that bill would mean… if a teacher mentioned the words “creationism” or “intelligent design”, that teacher would be forced to shut up about it, because, being non-science, there is no evidence for such things.

  7. Halidom
    February 27, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    I don’t think I’ve ever had a science teacher that was against a student asking questions. Sometimes it’s just an inquiring mind wanting more data and wanting more sources to study the points that the teacher is making. I think questioning a teacher and asking for more data makes the teacher feel good that the student is paying attention and is interested in science. I also studied psychology and with the plethora of different views on the subject questions were always bandied about. If some teacher had brought up creationism I would have probably disrupted the class with my loud laughter.

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