The battle over fluoridation in Montana

Citizens petition to remove fluoride from Bozeman’s tap water – The Bozeman Daily Chronicle.

For six decades, Bozeman has added fluoride to its water supply.

At several recent Bozeman City Commission meetings, members of Fluoride Free Bozeman have asked the city to stop.

“Swallowing fluoride causes harm,” Derek Grotheer, a young man in a plaid flannel shirt, told city officials. “Fluoride is more toxic than lead, and we have not given our consent to put it in the water.”

STOP RIGHT THERE…

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Fluoride more toxic than lead. Wrong.

Continue…

Public health officials argue that the value of fluoridating water has been clearly proven. They say it’s the cheapest, easiest way to improve dental health, particularly among the poor.

“The overwhelming weight of scientific evidence tells us that fluoridation of community water supplies is the best way to prevent tooth decay in people — especially in children,” said Gallatin County Health Officer Matt Kelley.

“It’s not just me saying that, it’s the American Dental Association, the American Medical Association, the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control, the National Institutes of Health, the U.S. Surgeon General — you name it,” Kelley said. “There’s not a lot of disagreement amongst people who really examine the facts and the science behind it.”

That’s the true part.

The other true part is that people come up with wacky ideas when the government decides what’s “best” for them and imposes it without consent. The facts are overwhelming, fluoridated water is safe and very effective. But, people do not like to be told what they must do. Thus, we have the issues about health care, environmental regulations, and why people some people hate taxes and social security and want smaller government…

Back to fluoride — those parents above a poverty level typically take their kids to the dentist regularly and get them treated with topic fluoride or have them brush their teeth with fluoride toothpaste. This isn’t as prevalent with lower income families and kids’ health suffers, which is sad. Is the answer mandatory fluoridation? Probably not. But pushing out FALSE information in an absurdly framed debate is worse. It’s a complicated issue that requires an education population to decide. Not sure we have that.

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  14 comments for “The battle over fluoridation in Montana

  1. March 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Thanks for writing about this important issue. But all those reliable authorities you cite would *strongly disagree* with your opinion that fluoridation should “probably not” be “mandatory.” That’s not where the science leads us on this – the most key question regarding fluoridation.

    While anti-fluoridationists insist that community water fluoridation (CWF) is “mass medication” and violates individual rights, no court of last resort has yet to agree with them.

    CWF is merely the adjustment of naturally-occurring fluoride in water supplies to an amount that is both beneficial and safe. The Institute of Medicine classifies fluoride as a “nutrient,” one that humans need for strong bones and teeth. (Fluoride even plays a role in hearing.)

    CWF is very cost effective, saving citizens a minimum of $38 for every dollar spent in dental bills. It also prevents an additional 20-40% less cavities *over and above* the effect of topical applications of fluoride.

    I have noted that CWF is an issue about which skeptics tend not to be familiar, although it is a pet target of conspiracy theorists.

    There are two organizations that are particularly concerned with the misinformation of the anti-fluoridation movement: Pew’s Campaign for Dental Health and the Institute for Science in Medicine. Both have excellent info about CWF on their websites.

    http://www.ilikemyteeth.org/fluoridation/

    http://www.scienceinmedicine.org/policy/statements/

    • March 27, 2012 at 7:36 PM

      Linda: I was thinking not just in terms of the science but more about a compromise as a policy issue. Sure, science informs us on this one but there are other considerations that probably could not be resolved if we just decided without public input.

      (sorry, your contribution was auto-delayed due to the multiple links)

      • March 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM

        There are lots of public health issues that are routinely decided by health departments without public input. Fluoridation is one such issue that should be decided on the science by health departments, but the anti-fluoridationist scaremongers force the issue into the public sphere. Just because the antis do that, with groundless claims (see other posts here), shouldn’t mean that rational people should be willing to settle with compromises that put the dental health of the community at needless risk. There is a lot at stake here. We know that turning off community water fluoridation will cause needless reduced dental health and all the suffering and expense that goes with that. The reasonable position is standing tough on fluoridation of drinking water.

  2. March 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Fluoridation is a HOAX

    Fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. It is one of the most poisonous substances on Earth. The industrial toxic waste fluoride used (Hexafluorosilicic acid) cures nothing and heals nothing and has never been tested or approved by FDA (in the USA) as safe and effective for human ingestion.

    Read the truth produced in the best scientific information on fluoridation here: (www.fluoridealert.org). You will see a petition signed by over 4000 professionals, including hundreds of dentists, hundreds of doctors, and other medical researchers calling on governments everywhere to stop fluoridation.

    There are many large scientific studies there to show that drinking fluoridated water has no positive effect on cavity reduction and to show that it causes cancer, thyroid damage, broken hips from brittle bones, lowered IQ and other health problems.

    • March 27, 2012 at 7:41 PM

      This is not the scientific consensus and what you are suggesting is conspiracy-type thinking. Also, your facts are not correct.

      Sorry, we don’t allow posting of scientifically inaccurate propaganda sites here. There is enough crap on the web as it is.

    • jakenow
      April 2, 2012 at 12:08 PM

      This comment from JWillie6 is typical of the junk-science that anti-fluoride activists use. For starters, consider the point he made about the Food & Drug Admin. — fluoride additives have “never been tested or approved by FDA …” The EPA has authority over monitoring the quality and safety of drinking water, and that’s exactly what it does under the Safe Drinking Water Act. Read for yourself: http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/rulesregs/sdwa/

      Either the anti-fluoride crowd is unaware of which agency has this responsibility, or it is deliberately misrepresenting the facts. Either way, it’s another reason why you can’t trust what the anti-fluoride quacks say.

  3. hilda
    March 27, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    Oh, and search for ‘Hitler and fluoridation’
    Neurological purposes of dumbing down the opposition in camps.
    Just sayin’

    • March 27, 2012 at 10:24 PM

      PUH-LEEZE! Go someplace else and spread nonsense. It’s not welcome here.

      • sloinker
        March 28, 2012 at 3:23 AM

        I get the fluoride twice a year with my cleanings but I recently stopped. The last time I had it I must have inadvertantly swallowed some and I was sick for two days. I suppose I will just drink more of my city’s yummy fluoridated water to make up the difference. The same people that are anti-fluorude are part of the anti-vaccination, herbal remedy coalition. You will run into them at psychic fairs and meditation vortexes everwhere.

    • March 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM

      That Hitler-Fluoride connection has been thoroughly debunked:

      “Truth about fluoride doesn’t include Nazi myth”
      http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/oct/06/critics-water-fluoridation/truth-about-fluoride-doesnt-include-nazi-myth/

      “We tracked down roots of these claims on the Web, reached out to Holocaust historians, contacted well-known critics of water fluoridation, and read book excerpts and magazine articles and news stories. And we can tell you: There’s no teeth to this claim.”

      • hilda
        March 28, 2012 at 6:54 PM

        I suggest you track down just who runs Politifact.com . Most of those sites are controlled by one side or the other. sorry about that, I’ve checked into it and it is commonly known such as Geo. Soros’s Media Matters and FactCheck etc. Now there’s a wonderful great man! Well known for ‘breaking the Bank of England’ and other such elitist moves.

        • March 28, 2012 at 7:33 PM

          Hilda, I have deleted your other post because of the unsupported stuff in there.

          FAIR WARNING: Any mention/reference to Natural News will get you banned. I consider that site one of the WORST, most horrendous web source there is on health.

          • Safe Water Advocate
            March 31, 2012 at 1:30 PM

            Idoubtit – That’s the way to get the dialogue going. Censorship! Especially about the stuff you personally disagree with. You go girl! I suppose you will censor this comment as well. BTW, jwillies comments are spot on. It is not an essential nutrient, and while the FDA considers fluoride a drug, it is not approved for ingestion for the purpose of preventing dental caries. So why are we putting it in our drinking water. So we can ingest it? Go figure.

            • March 31, 2012 at 2:15 PM

              This is not a forum for propaganda. We post information in line with the scientific consensus since that is the most reliable.

              Feel free to post whatever in your own outlets.

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